tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post5958191697523869486..comments2023-05-13T08:06:53.033-04:00Comments on Prettier Than Napoleon: This has been making the roundsAmberhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11792206117772893217noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post-23959842881450203112010-02-19T04:34:35.312-05:002010-02-19T04:34:35.312-05:00I hate to add to this thread-jack (Hey, did you kn...I hate to add to this thread-jack (Hey, did you know *very few women* were actually dragged to see Paul Blatt MC twice? It's true! This totally invalidates the ad!), but here's a nice ripped-from-the-headlines example that nicely displays the mechanisms that are hard to adequately control for:<br /><br />"[Ledbetter] started with the same pay but by retirement, she was earning $3,727X.Trapnelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16331820913539099727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post-90311530022553474312010-02-19T04:26:03.232-05:002010-02-19T04:26:03.232-05:00(Written before I read the comments, which I'm...(Written before I read the comments, which I'm sure will feature a Mike derail...)<br />Very well done--good script, great execution.<br />I still can't believe those SB commercials got greenlit. It boggles the mind. Headdesk.X.Trapnelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16331820913539099727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post-80570909746666294732010-02-17T23:40:20.674-05:002010-02-17T23:40:20.674-05:00The study I'm most aware of
Was it published ...<i>The study I'm most aware of</i><br /><br />Was it published in a peer-reviewed publication, or was it a working paper? I've never seen the 95 cents to the dollar figure except in June O'Neill's working paper, or when citing either only a very young age cohort (Census data from 2003 on FTYR wages of people born in the late 1970s and early 1980s), which as panthan notes can PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09381347581328622706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post-87911474803464761352010-02-17T17:54:15.003-05:002010-02-17T17:54:15.003-05:00I didn't see the original commercial. I'v...I didn't see the original commercial. I've now watched both, and see no way in which my life is better for it.<br /><br />The commercial specified "75 cents for every dollar... for the same job", so it's simply inaccurate. pg-13 mentions a study giving a 95 cents to one dollar; I'm familiar with a study about two decades old giving (I believe -- this is from memory) aAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16086501369615639092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post-24747652617530479872010-02-17T15:58:30.014-05:002010-02-17T15:58:30.014-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post-14777484674168526602010-02-17T15:55:04.871-05:002010-02-17T15:55:04.871-05:00People, I said regression analysis.People, I said regression analysis.Nick Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08099375758289859323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post-50183499894139669462010-02-17T15:21:54.652-05:002010-02-17T15:21:54.652-05:00we should not care about 75 cents on the dollar as...<i>we should not care about 75 cents on the dollar as anything more than a blob of unanalyzed data, and I assert that this is opinion in the way it is an opinion when I say the chair I am sitting on has mass.</i><br /><br />That makes no sense. You have a very bizarre view of your fellow human beings if you believe that whether they should care about something is equivalent in its fact-value to PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09381347581328622706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post-2096344033979982942010-02-17T14:07:28.056-05:002010-02-17T14:07:28.056-05:00"equality in the economic sense only applies ..."equality in the economic sense only applies when the same choices are made"<br /><br />I think this is absurd, at least in any sense in which economics can be said to contribute meaningfully to social analysis. It pretends that choices are made by free and independent agents without any constraining factors. If economics cannot analyze people's relative material positions taking Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05652220584105885270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post-22883434319575738842010-02-17T07:15:42.045-05:002010-02-17T07:15:42.045-05:00PG:
I hold the position that equality in the econo...PG:<br />I hold the position that equality in the economic sense only applies when the same choices are made and I further hold the position that equality is equality, and that we should not care about any circumstance of numerical inequality where the inputs are not only different, but no attempt at all has been made at regression analysis. I further hold that anyone of different opinion with Nick Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08099375758289859323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post-54267188189879340442010-02-17T03:25:26.826-05:002010-02-17T03:25:26.826-05:00""Women work 45 minutes for every hour t...""Women work 45 minutes for every hour that a man works" is much closer to the mark"<br /><br />Maybe. If you don't count unpaid labor inside the home. But I doubt that you (a) count that as work or (b) have any clue how much of it is actually performed.<br /><br />Yep, the real problem is that women work too little in this world.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05652220584105885270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post-35270383364278905052010-02-17T00:03:55.045-05:002010-02-17T00:03:55.045-05:00It was done well, but the truly extraordinary thin...It was done well, but the truly extraordinary thing is the 1500 comments on the youtube site...and the fact that the coordinated 4chan response is far from the most disturbing thing on there. <br />Seriously.<br />I'll be moving to a separatist commune in Bellevue now.esquiverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10679268494682291410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post-39439567129969084732010-02-16T21:11:08.352-05:002010-02-16T21:11:08.352-05:00Pictures!
http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2009/06/gre...Pictures!<br /><br />http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2009/06/great-man-cession-of-2008-2009.htmlUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03537981274809055415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post-48141205366534331792010-02-16T20:47:08.133-05:002010-02-16T20:47:08.133-05:00Nick: we shouldn't care about X
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pg-13: n...Nick: we shouldn't care about X <br />=/= <br />pg-13: not-X <i>Of course, women don't make "75 cents for every dollar a man makes."</i><br /><br />Whether we should care about something is purely opinion and can't be proven. Whether women make 75 cents for each dollar men make is either true or untrue within certain statistical parameters. (I'd say the Census figures PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09381347581328622706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post-73152699627005271332010-02-16T20:44:51.383-05:002010-02-16T20:44:51.383-05:00Whether or not that is fair.
Given that it's ...<i>Whether or not that is fair.</i><br /><br />Given that it's usually women in a hurry to have kids (tick-tock), it seems fair that women spend more time on the narcissistic monument/fuck trophy.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05271175695509162818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post-29638005400053949592010-02-16T20:41:33.501-05:002010-02-16T20:41:33.501-05:00Census data that median annual earnings for full-t...<i>Census data that median annual earnings for full-time year-round women workers are $30,724</i><br /><br />In any mega corporation, it's mostly the men who are pulling long hours doing demanding work; while the women screw around in marketing and HR. <br /><br />Heck, it's hard to blame the women for earning a decent salary doing easy work. Still, it's pretty laughable to claim Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05271175695509162818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post-41788268311764532812010-02-16T20:40:24.301-05:002010-02-16T20:40:24.301-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post-55619301605546739322010-02-16T19:11:23.104-05:002010-02-16T19:11:23.104-05:00I believe the assertion is that for varied reasons...I believe the assertion is that for varied reasons women may choose to take lower paying jobs than men, so we shouldn't care if women make less than men due to working different jobs. It would be hard for me to take seriously a claim that the notion has no merit at all and does not compose part of the wage gap in median earnings. For the time being, I think it's so much tilting at Nick Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08099375758289859323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post-11983680714444846412010-02-16T18:40:14.406-05:002010-02-16T18:40:14.406-05:00Of course, women don't make "75 cents for...<i>Of course, women don't make "75 cents for every dollar a man makes." They might choose to take lower-paying jobs, but that's a different issue.</i><br /><br />I assume the commercial's statement is based on the Census data that median annual earnings for full-time year-round women workers are $30,724, while men’s earnings are $40,668. How does your claim that women "PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09381347581328622706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post-91088998838215561772010-02-16T13:41:31.223-05:002010-02-16T13:41:31.223-05:00Damn, both commercials were powerful. Great finds...Damn, both commercials were powerful. Great finds.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05271175695509162818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post-82832464299851658542010-02-16T13:29:10.340-05:002010-02-16T13:29:10.340-05:00The goal of this kind of advertising isn't to ...The goal of this kind of advertising isn't to make you like the ad. It's to make you feel awful enough about yourself that you have to buy their product fill whatever hole in your life the commercial has made you believe in. Apparently, men are willing to pay pretty well to fill a hole in their scrotum.Geoffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06876827945692463786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post-59754086316910493182010-02-16T13:03:57.357-05:002010-02-16T13:03:57.357-05:00I'm wondering why we keep seeing ads in which ...I'm wondering why we keep seeing ads in which men seemed to be emasulated if neither men nor women like those ads.Hei Lunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10083568615204870688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post-39492950086242250262010-02-16T13:03:57.358-05:002010-02-16T13:03:57.358-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post-79037209639856565902010-02-16T12:27:29.441-05:002010-02-16T12:27:29.441-05:00This marriage thing sounds awesome! Where do I si...This marriage thing sounds awesome! Where do I sign up?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03537981274809055415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post-45592054068475269582010-02-16T09:16:57.878-05:002010-02-16T09:16:57.878-05:00I will watch Paul Blart, Mall Cop, twice
This alo...<i>I will watch Paul Blart, Mall Cop, twice</i><br /><br />This alone would be sufficient grounds for signing on to the SCUM Manifesto.Geoffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06876827945692463786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6574772.post-39300221439678835872010-02-16T00:30:42.727-05:002010-02-16T00:30:42.727-05:00Yelch to both. And I had had such a nice weekend,...Yelch to both. And I had had such a nice weekend, too...Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13864128910885006535noreply@blogger.com